SPN Family Survey

 

 

Comment 17

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

No.

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.) 

The people who make up those two factions seem to operate based on diametrically opposed life philosophies and value systems. J2 fans seem to be unable to love anyone but J2/Sam & Dean, while Misha fans (in general) seem more open to loving other actors/characters besides just Misha.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or a fan of all and the show? 


TFW fan

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

They're quite dedicated.

Why do you love Misha, Jared and/or Jensen?

J2M are genuinely kind and generous. They reach out to their fans and interact in a way many stars wouldn't (although they do so less nowadays because of fandom infighting and crazy stalkers who don't understand the difference between fiction and reality). They use their stardom to further good works in their community(ies), their state(s), and their world.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Stop being hateful toward fellow fans--regardless of who they stan or ship. Stop trying to ruin/sabotage good things that happen for "the other side." 

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

*My "lane" (J2M) generally focuses on inclusion (rather than exclusion) and kindness toward others.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why? 

I think shipping is fine. It can be a wonderful aspect of any fandom, bringing people together to share their joy in the pairing or possibility of pairing. But if your ship EVER causes you to act hateful toward another REAL human being (and yes, there are REAL HUMAN BEINGS reading your words and being emotionally impacted by them!), it's time to examine your life, because that level of obsession smacks of a deeper mental health issue that needs resolution. 

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean? 

Whatever makes Sam happy in the end is fine with me. As for Dean, I think it's too late to stuff that genie back in the bottle and pretend it doesn't exist. The writing has had him giving off bi signals for a really long time.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

Canon incest.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally?

I'm bisexual.

What about the other side that bothers you the most? Are you also guilty of this?!

Their willingness to fling hate at the actors and/or their family members and friends, sometimes even going so far as to tag them, and being hateful toward fellow fans of the show over a difference of opinion regarding interpretation. Their penchant for seeking out happy/polite conversations between fans on the opposing "side" and bombing them with hate/wank/belligerence. They actively try to ruin everything good for everyone else. I refuse to do ANY of the above. I simply block content I don't want to see (like accounts that openly ship incest) and do my best to avoid contact.If it was your child who was being treated how you are treating the other members of the fandom for having a difference of opinion to you would you be okay with your actions and words? *Yes. Unlike some within this fandom, I don't seek out other people's happiness with the intent to destroy it. All I want is to commune with other happy fans of the show we all love and discuss the story, its characters, our ship(s), etc. I advise people all the time not to engage directly with a hater, even if they come into your mentions. I tell people to block any and all such belligerents and move on, because arguing with someone who never intended to listen to/consider your point of view is a waste of your time and energy. Anybody who comes into your mentions acting hateful toward you doesn't deserve your attention. They only deserve to be blocked. It's the only way to maintain peace in your timeline AND send a message to the hater that their bad behavior won't be tolerated.

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or

Comment 16

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

No

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

Too many years have passed and people are too entrenched in their views.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Misha fan

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

Nothing

Why do you love Misha, Jared and/or Jensen?

I love Misha's mind, his kindness and his effort to make the world a better place.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Stop the hating.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

We try to be inclusive of everyone.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

It doesn't help. But when Misha came on the show the antis viewed him as a threat and it has only escalated from there.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

I'd be okay with that.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

If Misha leaves then I'm done. Even though I enjoy the other characters, I started watching because of Cas and my opinion hasn't changed.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

I'm straight,, married and a grandmother. I consider myself an ally.

What about the other side that bothers you the most? Are you also guilty of this?!

The lies, the hatred etc. etc. I would hope I'm not. I don't interact enough online and I'm too old for all the pettiness but I recognize it when I see it.

Comment 15

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

Yes

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

Everyone will realize we are family.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

They are passionate.

Why do you love Misha, Jared and/or Jensen?

Omc they are compassionate, kind, handsome.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Just accept us for who we arevand our love for all characters

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

Noone is right or wrong

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

No.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

If thats who he is then great

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

Oh hell no

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

Ally

If it was your child who was being treated how you are treating the other members of the fandom for having a difference of opinion to you would you be okay with your actions and words?

Yes i haven't bullied anyone

Comment 14

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

Maybe

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

I have my doubts that J2 fans would even want to. The hatred they have going on for Misha/Cas is borderline psychotic. Sorry, just being honest. It'd be nice to see the factions come together though. I can't give up on that hope.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Misha fan

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

They're passionate in their beliefs.

Why do you love Misha, Jared and/or Jensen?

I love all three, honestly, but, Misha is just..incredible and life changing and, made me want to be a better person.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

STOP.WITH.THE.HATE.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

I do. Cause we don't go looking for something to hate about J2, we don't attack EVERY SINGLE THING they show up in or post. We don't attack their wives and children.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Yes. Unfortunately. It shouldn't though. I have no idea why it does, maybe their side of the fandom feels compelled to control what everyone sees in the show? It's art, see what you want to see. That's the point.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

Hmm...boy I don't know ...I'd be intrigued to see where they'd take that. Interesting , never thought of that!

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

I've nearly stopped already. The writing is crap most of the time. But, I'm hoping it gets better, so I hang in there. And the fandom wank is frankly embarrassing.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

Ally.

What about the other side that bothers you the most? Are you also guilty of this?!

That they can't scroll past shit they don't like and leave it the fuck alone. How hard is it? I am absolutely not guilty of doing that. I have no problem zooming past shit that isn't my thing.

If it was your child who was being treated how you are treating the other members of the fandom for having a difference of opinion to you would you be okay with your actions and words?

Absolutely. No question.

Comment 13

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

No

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

There is simply too much blind hate from both sides to ever truly get along.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

They rally around causes/voting like nobody's business.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Stay in their lane. Stop it with the ship and kink shaming.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

Nah. I don't think either "side" is right or wrong; lumping the "sides" into great seething masses is inaccurate and limiting. It ends up catching a lot of innocent fans in that net.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Absolutely. Intolerance and insensitivity isn't exclusive to shippers, though. When shipping is conflated with Social Justice, a lot of wrong-headed, desperate behavior rises to the surface. It makes the perpetrators feel sanctimonious and justified, when in truth, it's just belittling real world issues. Yes, we need to expand the stories we tell, but more so, we need to expand the world we *actually* live in.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

I'd say "HUZZAH!" Sam has never once clarified his preferences. He successfully matriculated in a liberal college setting. He just seems far more flow about who and how he loves. Neither guy has had a non-straight canonical relationship, but given how popular Dean is with the straight General Audience, Sam would actually be a great choice. It wouldn't alienate the show's GA base.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

If Jared or Jensen left the show. I enjoy the whole cast, but Sam and Dean are the keystones.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

Yes.

What about the other side that bothers you the most? Are you also guilty of this?!

Launching unprovoked attacks on the "enemy". Nope, I do not.

If it was your child who was being treated how you are treating the other members of the fandom for having a difference of opinion to you would you be okay with your actions and words?

Eh. Some days I engage in conversations that I shouldn't, but for the most part, I don't try to show my ass. I never thrown the first punch.

Comment 12

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

No

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

Some people can't handle friendly banter.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

They appreciate the one they love so much.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Don't take things too seriously.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

No I will love them all till the end of my life.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Yes because it makes the actors uncomfortable and people keep pressing it to happen. If they really love these men they will care and respect their wishes.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

Ha.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

Probably if they bring to much politics into it. I use the show to escape this world I don't need double the crap.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

An ally to some degree.

What about the other side that bothers you the most? Are you also guilty of this?!

How they take things out of context and make it seem like a bigger deal than it is.

If it was your child who was being treated how you are treating the other members of the fandom for having a difference of opinion to you would you be okay with your actions and words?

No

Comment 11

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

Maybe

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

The two parts of this fandom have a ton of discord due to their beliefs, but I have a somewhat large amount of faith that we can put aside our differences. Maybe we won’t agree, but I hope that we can get along in our mutual love for the show.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

As a Misha fan, I see the J2 fans and definitely have to admit their dedication to Jared and Jensen, which is equal to my love of Misha.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

I wish they would stop seeking out our accounts and attacking us for no reason besides squeeing about what we love. We deserve to be happy and not get anonymous or any kind of hate for our passion.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

A last poll of yours showed that all Misha fans love Jared, but not all Jared fans love Misha. This is pretty rock hard proof that we have less hate and less discourse on our side, and more ethics. We don’t have this immense amount of hate for the other side, and if some of us do we aren’t as active and loud about it.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Absolutely. Shipping wars has caused a large amount of the hate between sides of this fandom. A ship causes fans to dissect parts of the show that may be seen differently by other fans, which can cause a huge fight about what the characters were actually saying/implying.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

While I am an avid shipper of destiel and an advocate for Bi!Dean, I could definitely see Sam being bisexual. I feel that his character would be more accepting and chill about a fluid sexuality, and could open a lot of possibilities for his dream of having a normal life. Well, as normal as these boys can get.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

The only thing that could get me to stop is if they kill off Castiel/Misha permanently like Crowley. Cas is a huge part of why I love the show and I relate so much to his character. Also, in the unlikely chance that this happens, the J2/SamDean fans would be extremely aggressive about it and probably cause a lot of grief and anger in the Cas fandom.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

I identify as lgbt+ and am an ally to all.

If it was your child who was being treated how you are treating the other members of the fandom for having a difference of opinion to you would you be okay with your actions and words?

I can’t exactly give a clear yes or no answer. I wouldn’t say that I’m agressive or mean to the other side, but I have tweeted a few “roasts” and comments that I am not proud of. However, I realized this a while ago and now don’t engage with the other members in case I come off as hateful as some of they are.

Comment 10

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

Maybe

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

I’m a pathological optimist, maybe... but “J2 fan” doesn’t HAVE to equal “Misha hater”.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Misha fan

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

The majority of J2 fans are perfectly nice and don’t hate anyone.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Call out and distance themselves from haters that are J2 fans.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

It’s complicated... A lot of lies have been spread about Misha fans & Destiel shippers for a long time, but living in the middle of this fandom, I know they’re 99% untrue.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Totally. The hate is driven by tinhat J2 shipping.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

I’d say that wouldn’t make any sense. Sam doesn’t have the hangups that Dean has. If Sam was bi, he’d be open with it.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

Plenty of things. I almost stopped watching in s10 when they a) killed Charlie and b) aired that stupid-ass finale where Dean killed Death and put the entire universe at risk for his brother.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

Queer.

If it was your child who was being treated how you are treating the other members of the fandom for having a difference of opinion to you would you be okay with your actions and words?

I haven’t always behaved perfectly, but my very beloved niece was actually a Jared fan and bit of a Wincest shipper a while back, and I try to watch what I say so I can stand by it later. So, yes, I think/hope I would be.

Comment 9

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

Yes

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

10/11/17

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

I do not have an opposing side. But we all love deeply.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Evaluate their actions honestly, taking into account the golden rule.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

I’m a fence sitter. No side is right. Every side has their problems, even us fence sitters.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

I do. But it’s because we are so passionate about it.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

YES. I think that would be wonderful. Where as Dean has always been portrayed as straight, there is some gray area for Sam.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

Honestly, Destiel or any ship becoming canon for an extended period. Even my own. The show is not about romance.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

Ally. However, I could be considered in the + part.

If it was your child who was being treated how you are treating the other members of the fandom for having a difference of opinion to you would you be okay with your actions and words?

Yes. I always strive to be kind and polite. Even when disagreements occur.

Comment 8

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

Maybe

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

If they start listening to each other instead of talking at each other.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

I don't think I have a "side" since I don't generally ship non-canon relationships. I can't think of anything positive to say about people who attack the spouses and children of the actors over their warped perception of reality.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Realize that attacking real people about a fictional relationship is wrong.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

Basic morality and a grasp on reality.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

It does but it shouldn't.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

I have no issue with it as long as it makes sense for the story.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

It going off the air.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

Ally. 


Comment 7

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

Maybe

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

It will have to be a matter of consensus that hinges on the show and its evolution... not on ships.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

Their passion, though overwhelming, is unwavering.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Drop the incest normalization and the insistence that it is canon.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

I'm not sure we're "right" necessarily. I do think that the Dean and Cas duo have, in canon, shared a deeply profound bond. Whether that translates romantically isn't up to me, although I do believe that it isn't necessary to see overt PDAs to recognize a romantic love.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Of course. There are extremes in all cultures...SPN is not immune to zealots.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

In all honesty, nothing, because I don't see gender as binary. I also dont believe they really can make any character adopt a sexuality. They can write it that way, but it shouldn't be necessary.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

At this point, a resounding "no".

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

I'm an ally.

If it was your child who was being treated how you are treating the other members of the fandom for having a difference of opinion to you would you be okay with your actions and words?

There are times when I've reacted harshly and regretted it. To speak in haste is a path to division. Richard Speight Jr. made a well repeated statement regarding the issue of spreading hatred, and was exceptionally eloquent in his solutions to the problem. Basically...avoid the angry reply.

Comment 6

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

No

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

Because from what I've seen, is while there are more people now who meet in the middle, as time goes on, I've only seen the hard-core "onlies" polarize themselves from the rest of the fandom.
I don't see this getting better, only worse.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

"onlies" manage to find something good about their favorite(s) no matter what

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

stop clinging to the idea that anyone's opinion that doesn't agree with yours is wrong.
Everyone's faves are problematic.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

because I accept that everyone screws up and (hopefully) learns from their mistakes.
Being disappointed in a character/actor does not equal hate.
But trying to say your fave is better than someone else's?
That kind of IS hate.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Yes, because you have shippers who defend their ships, and you have people from opposite ships attacking the other shippers.
I am not saying "all sides are equally bad" because there are some people who act more shitty than others.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

I would be disappointed since I feel there's more canonicity for Dean, but then I'd campaign harder to have them reveal Dean was bisexual also.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

IF Misha finally left the show, my soul would be free.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

Yes, bisexual

Comment 5

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

Maybe

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

Some J2 and Misha fans do get along. They also frequently are TFW fans. The toxic members are the issue. Do not judge all by the actions of few. Jensen, Jared, and Misha all support Kindness to one another. Fans who spew vial hatred go against what they claim to support. Some J2 and Misha fans do get along. They also frequently are TFW fans. The toxic members are the issue. Do not judge all by the actions of few. Jensen, Jared, and Misha all support Kindness to one another. Fans who spew vial hatred go against what they claim to support. 

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

The kind members are passionate about their beliefs and protective of their favorites. 

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Just do not cross the line between fandom and stalker/groupie/psycho and all will be Namaste'. Don't harass the actors, their friends, and their families. Let their private lives be private. #NoHate #KindnessMatters #AKF #RA 

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

I believe everyone needs to take a deep breath and weed out the toxic members on their own side. Stand up to your own part of the fandom as well. When they act out call them out report them block them. Make friends with those outside your own beliefs. I have friends from many ships. We can all coexist.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Some fans have become obsessed with their fantasies of fictional characters and the actors themselves. The obsessions have reached toxic levels. They seem to be so lost in their fantasy worlds that if you do not believe as they do then you automatically hate them and their favorite which is of course just another delusion of theirs. Sadly their delusions can become violent. 

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

That would be fine with me. I am a supported of the LGBTQIA+ community. Sam was trapped in the cage with Lucifer for quite some time and there have been hints during the show that Lucifer abused him. If either Sam or Dean find love I will be happy.I do not care if their true love is male, female, human, angel, demon,  vampire, werewolf, demigod, ghoul, witch or nephilim. They can even choose to go through a sex change if that is what they want or remain celibate. They have both been through Hell and back literally. What ever makes them truly happy should be expressed. 

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

Yes if they brought in actors who displayed horrific, unethical, abusive, demeaning, cruel, abusive, prejudice, and vile behavior. When you are in the public eye you must maintain a certain level of humanity. They have had actors no longer with them that have behaved in appropriately. 

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

Proud part of the LGBTQIA+ Community

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Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

No

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

Because people will always overreact to everything they do even when they are just joking around.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

They all want the best for their people.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

I love both sides but what I see is that what is hurting the two sides is that people take into account the boy's jokes and pranks and take them too seriously. They all need to know that each of those boys love each other like family and would never hurt the other.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

I don't have a side.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

Oh hell no.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

Ally.

Comment 4

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

Yes

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

I think everyone will realize we are all family and family sticks together.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

They all want the best for their peopleThey all want the best for their people

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

I love both sides but what I see is that what is hurting the two sides is that people take into account the boy's jokes and pranks and take them too seriously. They all need to know that each of those boys love each other like family and would never hurt the other.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

I don't have a side.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Yeah because people pick out every detail to support their ship and it get annoying for the other side.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

Nothing because I don't think either of them are bisexual.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

Nothing. Not ever.

Do you identify as lgbt+ or are you an ally? 

I don't but I give my support.

Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

Maybe

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

I think at some point the whole SPN family will get along because already there are some only J2 fans and some only Misha fans that are close friends it’s all about wanting things to get better.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

They are nice people. They are very devoted to their side in a good way and very supportive.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Stop bashing Misha would be the main one.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

To be honest I don’t think either side is fully right. Both sides have things to fix.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Yes because both sides take serious offense to shipping.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

Go for it. I can see it.

Is there anything that would cause you to stop watching Supernatural?

No

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Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

No

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

I don’t think a true unified time will come. Not with everyone. There will always be anti’s that exist with and against every ship, every fave. I think that it might decrease a bit, but I don’t think it’ll ever truly go away.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Fan of all and the show

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

“Opposing side” would only apply to vitriolic faves-only fans. Who obsess over their fave an take any attention to someone else as a slight.“Opposing side” would only apply to vitriolic faves-only fans. Who obsess over their fave an take any attention to someone else as a slight.

But as to those who view themselves as the opposite side from me, that would probably be Bronlies fans, specifically meaning fans who act like the vitriolic fans explained above. I can’t really say anything positive about that. 

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Stop interpreting people having different favorites or ships as a declaration of hate or irredeemable difference. Accept that all of these fictional ships are just that, fictional. Even the RPS. Stop acting like their RPS are real, and stop attacking/badmouthing the spouses and their friends because they don’t fit with your AU ship of real life people.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

Typically I see more inclusive attitudes. People accepting differences in shipping, favorites, etc. We get riled up over the people who act hatefully and harmfully towards our faves, but we try not to judge people based on their favorite stuff, but by their attitude towards other fans.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Yes. Some shippers get too caught up in shipping and start to see other ships as competition. Or listen to anti’s narrative because of their dislike of a ship and start believing the worst of entire group in fandom, because of the anti’s bias.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

I’d be fine with it. I personally think Sam (not soulless Sam, he doesn’t count when discussing this IMO) is more or less Pansexual, and also prefers to have a connection with his partners. So there would have to be some connection between characters if Sam got into a relationship or some sort of plot if Sam had a more casual relationship with a guy. Not much different than my opinion of his relationships with women.

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Do you think there will come a time when both main factions of the SPN family will get along? (J2 fans and Misha fans.) 

Maybe

What is your reasoning for the above answer? (Why, or why not.)

I'm an optimistic person but sometimes I wonder if this is fixable. The J2/Bronly side that I've seen come after Misha fans all while twisting innocent comments and shouting about intolerance and injustice..... but incest SHOULDN'T be tolerated. It's a crime. It's ok to explore your dark side fictitiously but to hold it up on a pedestal is going to shock most people.

Are you a J2 fan, Misha fan, TFW fan or fans of all and the show?

Misha fan

What is one positive thing you can say about the "opposing side"?

Some J2 and Wincest shippers are probably not out there to cause trouble. The only ones that have sought me out were hostile and frankly off their rockers, though.

What can the opposite side of the fandom do to be accepted by yours?

Change the culture and shut down hate when you see it within your ranks. Stop going out and finding new Misha fans to hate on. If one particular Misha fan is causing trouble, ask for help. Make it known but don't feed in to it. Don't add fuel to the fire and keep it going.

Do you think your side is right? If so, why?

I can't answer this because as a mother I will never condone incest.....
However, beyond that issue, I think that both sides have bullies and both sides should work on changing the culture of this fandom to make calling one another out completely frowned upon.

Do you think shipping plays a role in fandom wank? If so, why?

Let's be honest. Shipping is the heart of any fandom. It's not going anywhere.

What would you say if the show made Sam bisexual instead of Dean?

I would be pissed. I haven't seen any indication that Sam is bisexual but there are many instances that show Dean is. Don't give us what we don't want. That's weird.


 

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